Ita redarguitur ipse a sese, convincunturque scripta eius probitate ipsius ac moribus. Nos paucis ad haec additis finem faciamus aliquando; Quos quidem tibi studiose et diligenter tractandos magnopere censeo. Quo plebiscito decreta a senatu est consuli quaestio Cn. Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Quando enim Socrates, qui parens philosophiae iure dici potest, quicquam tale fecit?

Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Hoc loco tenere se Triarius non potuit. Hoc loco discipulos quaerere videtur, ut, qui asoti esse velint, philosophi ante fiant. Illa sunt similia: hebes acies est cuipiam oculorum, corpore alius senescit; Commoda autem et incommoda in eo genere sunt, quae praeposita et reiecta diximus; Potius inflammat, ut coercendi magis quam dedocendi esse videantur. Ex rebus enim timiditas, non ex vocabulis nascitur. Ab his oratores, ab his imperatores ac rerum publicarum principes extiterunt.

Nam quibus rebus efficiuntur voluptates, eae non sunt in potestate sapientis. Quarum ambarum rerum cum medicinam pollicetur, luxuriae licentiam pollicetur. Commoda autem et incommoda in eo genere sunt, quae praeposita et reiecta diximus; Quid sequatur, quid repugnet, vident. Quis tibi ergo istud dabit praeter Pyrrhonem, Aristonem eorumve similes, quos tu non probas? Quid est igitur, inquit, quod requiras? Utrum igitur tibi litteram videor an totas paginas commovere? Quantum Aristoxeni ingenium consumptum videmus in musicis? Quamquam ab iis philosophiam et omnes ingenuas disciplinas habemus;

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla expectata nec quaesita voluptate. Consequens enim est et post oritur, ut dixi. Quae quo sunt excelsiores, eo dant clariora indicia naturae. Nec mihi illud dixeris: Haec enim ipsa mihi sunt voluptati, et erant illa Torquatis. Roges enim Aristonem, bonane ei videantur haec: vacuitas doloris, divitiae, valitudo; His singulis copiose

responderi solet, sed quae perspicua sunt longa esse non debent. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Torquatus, is qui consul cum Cn.

Quo studio Aristophanem putamus aetatem in litteris duxisse? Sed et illum, quem nominavi, et ceteros sophistas, ut e Platone intellegi potest, lusos videmus a Socrate. In his igitur partibus duabus nihil erat, quod Zeno commutare gestiret. Certe, nisi voluptatem tanti aestimaretis. Quod autem ratione actum est, id officium appellamus. Addidisti ad extremum etiam indoctum fuisse. Quare conare, quaeso. Quo plebiscito decreta a senatu est consuli quaestio Cn. Nescio quo modo praetervolavit oratio.

Paulum, cum regem Persem captum adduceret, eodem flumine invectio? An nisi populari fama? Hi curatione adhibita levantur in dies, valet alter plus cotidie, alter videt. Quid ergo aliud intellegetur nisi uti ne quae pars naturae neglegatur? Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus. Saepe ab Aristotele, a Theophrasto mirabiliter est laudata per se ipsa rerum scientia; Ut in geometria, prima si dederis, danda sunt omnia. Equidem, sed audistine modo de Carneade? Nam si propter voluptatem, quae est ista laus, quae possit e macello peti? Hosne igitur laudas et hanc eorum, inquam, sententiam sequi nos censes oportere?

Et summatim quidem haec erant de corpore animoque dicenda, quibus quasi informatum est quid hominis natura postulet. Profectus in exilium Tubulus statim nec respondere ausus; Obsecro, inquit, Torquate, haec dicit Epicurus? Tu autem negas fortem esse quemquam posse, qui dolorem malum putet. Quare conare, quaeso. A mene tu? Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit. Hoc ne statuam quidem dicturam pater aiebat, si loqui posset.

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In parvis enim saepe, qui nihil eorum cogitant, si quando iis ludentes minamur praecipitaturos alicunde, extimescunt. Alterum significari idem, ut si diceretur, officia media omnia aut pleraque servantem vivere. Age, inquies, ista parva sunt. Illa argumenta propria videamus, cur omnia sint paria peccata.

Nec tamen ullo modo summum pecudis bonum et hominis idem mihi videri potest. Iis igitur est difficilius satis facere, qui se Latina scripta dicunt contemnere. Itaque rursus eadem ratione, qua sum paulo ante usus, haerebitis. Atque haec ita iustitiae propria sunt, ut sint virtutum reliquarum communia.

At cum de plurimis eadem dicit, tum certe de maximis. Tum Quintus: Est plane, Piso, ut dicis, inquit. An quod ita callida est, ut optime possit architectari voluptates? Cur id non ita fit? Cyrenaici quidem non recusant; Hic ambiguo ludimur.