Atque his de rebus et splendida est eorum et illustris oratio. Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est? Sine ea igitur iucunde negat posse se vivere? Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Hoc dixerit potius Ennius: Nimium boni est, cui nihil est mali. Qui autem esse poteris, nisi te amor ipse ceperit? Nam, ut sint illa vendibiliora, haec uberiora certe sunt. Primum quid tu dicis breve?

Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Audeo dicere, inquit.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Quae similitudo in genere etiam humano apparet. Cum id quoque, ut cupiebat, audivisset, evelli iussit eam, qua erat transfixus, hastam. Aliter enim explicari, quod quaeritur, non potest. Quoniam, si dis placet, ab Epicuro loqui discimus. Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Ita multa dicunt, quae vix intellegam. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Mihi quidem Antiochum, quem audis, satis belle videris attendere.

Experiamur igitur, inquit, etsi habet haec Stoicorum ratio difficilius quiddam et obscurius. Ab hoc autem quaedam non melius quam veteres, quaedam omnino relicta. Deinde disputat, quod cuiusque generis animantium statui deceat extremum. Eadem nunc mea adversum te oratio est. Quo plebiscito decreta a senatu est consuli quaestio Cn. Virtutis, magnitudinis animi, patientiae, fortitudinis fomentis dolor mitigari solet. An est aliquid per se ipsum flagitiosum, etiamsi nulla comitetur infamia?

Hoc non est positum in nostra actione. At enim, qua in vita est aliquid mali, ea beata esse non potest. Ecce aliud simile dissimile. Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam. Illud dico, ea, quae dicat, praeclare inter se cohaerere. Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas. Iam illud quale tandem est, bona praeterita non effluere sapienti, mala meminisse non oportere?

Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio. Vide, quantum, inquam, fallare,

Torquate. Tria genera bonorum; Nunc de hominis summo bono quaeritur;

Bona autem corporis huic sunt, quod posterius posui, similiora. Neque solum ea communia, verum etiam paria esse dixerunt. Nam aliquando posse recte fieri dicunt nulla expectata nec quaesita voluptate. Quid ergo hoc loco intellegit honestum? Tu vero, inquam, ducas licet, si sequetur; Videmusne ut pueri ne verberibus quidem a contemplandis rebus perquirendisque deterreantur? Habent enim et bene longam et satis litigiosam disputationem. Prioris generis est docilitas, memoria;

Sed mehercule pergrata mihi oratio tua. Vide, quantum, inquam, fallare, Torquate. Multoque hoc melius nos veriusque quam Stoici. Apud ceteros autem philosophos, qui quaesivit aliquid, tacet; Quam ob rem tandem, inquit, non satisfacit? Potius inflammat, ut coercendi magis quam dedocendi esse videantur. Et nemo nimium beatus est; Ita cum ea volunt retinere, quae superiori sententiae conveniunt, in Aristonem incidunt; Tibi hoc incredibile, quod beatissimum. Quam nemo umquam voluptatem appellavit, appellat;

Dolor ergo, id est summum malum, metuetur semper, etiamsi non aderit; Quae cum dixisset, finem ille. Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam. Nos vero, inquit ille; Nec vero intermittunt aut admirationem earum rerum, quae sunt ab antiquis repertae, aut investigationem novarum. Mihi quidem Antiochum, quem audis, satis belle videris attendere.

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